Confirmed Fully Vaxed Have 251 Times Viral Load- Superspreaders
08/23/21

Study: Fully Vaccinated Healthcare Workers Carry 251 Times Viral Load, Pose Threat to Unvaccinated Patients, Co-Workers

A preprint paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group, published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.

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  1. K O

    There’s nothing wrong with having questions about the vaccine, but this information is inaccurate. Please go to the source, which is actually linked in the original childrens health defense article!

    If you read the actual paper, it says the viral loads in infected people of the DELTA variant are 251X higher than the viral loads of the PREVIOUS variants. It is not comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated. The whole premise of this discussion using the paper is not correct. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733

    The paper says, “Viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020.”
    The conclusion of the paper is instead ” Interpretation: Breakthrough Delta variant infections are associated with high viral loads, prolonged PCR positivity, and low levels of vaccine-induced neutralizing antibodies, explaining the transmission between the vaccinated people. Physical distancing measures remain critical to reduce SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant transmission.”

    That vaccinated people who are symptomatic with delta variant carry the SAME or SIMILAR viral loads as infected nonvaccinated with delta variant people has been known for a few months. Simply stated, the higher your viral load, the more likely you are to have symptoms and the sicker you may get, regardless of vaccination status. If you want to know the statistics for severe disease and hospitalization comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated, that is available and I’m not here to argue that. Sterilizing immunity initially found in the vaccination studies of previous variants was a bonus – the vaccines were developed to protect against severe disease and all the hype about immunity has actually caused a lot of harm.

    No matter your opinion on any of this highly politicized subject, what will probably happen over the next year is that this will become endemic. The highly transmitted delta variant will cause this to happen more quickly. As vaccinated people develop the long-term memory cell immunity and previously-infected people do the same, (or some combination of both) each exposure will result in the next exposure being either repelled by the immune system, or lesser in severity until COVID truly is just another corona virus like the cold that we have to deal with seasonally. If you choose to get your exposure through infection and not vaccination, you are just accepting a greater risk of severe disease – that is the choice you make and there are, of course, other ramificiations. If only people could have rational discussions about this and not be stuck in one corner or another over this divisive tribalism, we could all work together.

    There are four other corona viruses that are now endemic for which this is the case. That happens over time – kind of like how cold and flu viruses decimated some isolated native populations when explorers who had developed immunity over many years first visited.

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    • Neville

      I appreciate your comments and the discussion points. I read the paper and you were correct of course. One thing that still puzzles me is there are lots of reports on the SARS-Cov-2 virus never having been isolated. In effect it doesn’t exist. In the same vein, I have read that there is no test to identify the delta strain, implying there is no proof of what it is?

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    • Neville

      I just went through the whole paper again. There is no section called conclusions. The last numbered paragraphs were in effect the conclusion.
      292 Delta variant infection cases peaked around 2-3 days before and after the development of
      293 symptoms, and were 251 times higher than those of the infected cases detected during the
      294 early phase of the pandemic in 202
      The clear assessment is that the infection load of these vaccinated individuals was 251 times higher than the loads observed with the pre-vaccination cases in 2020. That is pretty much what was concluded in the posting.

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